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1) Message boards : Number crunching : What happened? (Message 837)
Posted 27 Jun 2008 by j2satx
No work from MindModeling for at least 2 days?





We have a 5 jobs in the queue

4 of them are somewhat small and will probably be ready tomorrow.
These are PRP deviations -- similiar to simulations that that have been run in the past

the 5th is by far the largest - DSST (about 1 Million work units)
Unfortunately, in its current state it uses 1GB of RAM per instance.
It is currently running only on internal resorces. We are working on methods to prune this back before releasing it.

Jack


Does each WU use 1Gb from the start or near the end of processing?

I've done another project that had WUs that needed that much at the end of the run, but much less until the end. Dedicated dual-cores with 2Gb worked well since two WUs normally did not finish together and even if they did, one would wait until it had enough RAM.

Might even have some of us gung ho enough to run three of four cores to have enough RAM for testing.
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : SUPERSEDED -- Windows Patch for version 3.00 (Message 785)
Posted 2 Jun 2008 by j2satx
A member of my team has the problem that on his Phenom X4 with Windows XP all WUs are aborted immediately. According to the log sbcl can\'t be started. So he downloaded the patch and applied it, but as soon as he starts BOINC again MindModeling@Home downloads a fresh copy of the 3.00 client replacing the patched files. Of course the WUs are aborted again...
This is his machine: http://mindmodeling.org/beta/results.php?hostid=4092

Any advice?


Is your team member running 64-bit XP?


Hi I is the member with the concerned system system.
I don\'t apply any Win-XP 64-bit but Windows XP pro 32-bit edition one.
The program of starting universe exes datein for Windows nevertheless doesn\'t calculate her after one to 5 minutes, however, the mistake-news then come

I ask for fast remedy, genes would become genuinely for rakes here.


I may be mistaken, but I thought the \"patch\" was for X64. That may explain why it reloads another 3.00 client.

Hopefully, Jack will jump in and explain.
3) Questions and Answers : Windows : SUPERSEDED -- Windows Patch for version 3.00 (Message 782)
Posted 1 Jun 2008 by j2satx
A member of my team has the problem that on his Phenom X4 with Windows XP all WUs are aborted immediately. According to the log sbcl can\'t be started. So he downloaded the patch and applied it, but as soon as he starts BOINC again MindModeling@Home downloads a fresh copy of the 3.00 client replacing the patched files. Of course the WUs are aborted again...
This is his machine: http://mindmodeling.org/beta/results.php?hostid=4092

Any advice?


Is your team member running 64-bit XP?
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : SUPERSEDED -- Windows Patch for version 3.00 (Message 774)
Posted 27 May 2008 by j2satx
A patch for Windows is now available
Download Here

This patch should help users with systems running 64-bit versions of Windows and Vista machines having issues running Steel Bank Common Lisp --> Computation Errors


  • Patch Contains:
    mm_sbcl - Steel Bank Common Lisp - 1.0.44.22 compiled for Windows
    sbcl.core - 1.0.14.22 lisp core file

  • Patch Directions:
    Simple replace existing versions of mm_sbcl and sbcl.core with these new versions

    • Replace files
      The files to replace can be found in the sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows directory in the MindModeling projects directory.
      i.e. C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows\\

    • Restart boinc
      (one core should start processing to prepare things and then shortly after the rest will start)


  • Acknowledgments:
    This version of SBCL was produced by http://www.peerweb.nl/

    A special thank you to all the testers who tried this patch out on their systems.



Did this on my one remaining X64 box.......testing now.
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Problems with resource share (Message 744)
Posted 12 May 2008 by j2satx
I have 2 PC Windows XP 64b and 1 Windows XP 32b.
Each PC has VMWare intalled, running Linux Ubuntu 8.04 (on the 64b version there is Ubuntu 64b).

The resource share in Ubuntu is 500 (this correct and equal to the value in my account page - 500 is both primary and home preference)

The problem is: why in Boinc under Windows the resource share is 100 (in all the 3 PC)?? and also after an update ??


I do not see any processed WUs for Windows on the one machine (Intel) that is registered as Windows OS.

If you want all three Windows OS machines to be in sync with the Linux (virtual) machines, you need to have common projects amongst the six machines. The easiest way for me to keep my machines synced up is to have a common project on each machine. Since you have MM on three Linux machines, you can make it easy on yourself and put MM on the three Windows machines.

Do you ever process WUs on Windows and Linux at the same time?
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange granting values (Message 629)
Posted 10 Apr 2008 by j2satx

Sounds worth trying.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Trash talk (Message 387)
Posted 21 Feb 2008 by j2satx
Guess everyone folded their hand......I\'ll go tilt at another windmill for awhile.

I did this for a project in my hometown.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Trash talk (Message 381)
Posted 20 Feb 2008 by j2satx
That\'s what I wanted to hear, bring it on boys.


I brought it.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Trash talk (Message 379)
Posted 18 Feb 2008 by j2satx
My ante is in.......deal the cards.
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : 64-bit BOINC client / 32-bit work. (Message 365)
Posted 13 Feb 2008 by j2satx
I just started with MindModeling@Beta .... And I\'m going to need some very explicit instructions.


We are having no luck with 64-bit Vista.
As soon as someone finds a way to run Steel Bank Common Lisp on a 64-bit windows computer all will be well.

The current test case that someone with a Win64 computer would be this:

Step 1.
Download this file
sbcl.1.013.zip

Step 2.
unzip the file [move the 2 contained files to c:\\ for simplicity]

Step 3.
Press the windows key + r together //this will pop-up a run dialog box
type \'cmd.exe\'
Press enter

Step 4.
You should now have a Command Window [DOS shell]
change directory to where your unzipped the files sbcl.exe and sbcl.core
type \'cd c:\\\'
Press enter

Step 5.
Try running Steel Bank Common Lisp
type
\'sbcl --core sbcl.core\'
press enter

5. Success or Failure
if you get a message talking about
\"Your kitten of death awaits\" -- or something like that
then we have a version of lisp that can be used by the project and I will then release a new Windows version with 64-bit windows support
otherwise
We are still in need of a free lisp implementation of Winx64

Let me know how it turns out,

--Jack



Thanks Jack.

I followed your procedure with some minor problems.

In Step 1 the system wouldn\'t allow download into c:\\ as it said I didn\'t have permission. Well, I am the owner of the system, the installer of the OS and the only administrator, yet Vista X64 doesn\'t recognize me as such. Vista Ultimate X64 security is still somewhat whacked and a lot of users are haveing problems similar to this. So I downloaded it elsewhere.

In Step 3, I don\'t have a \"windows\" key to press so I used the [start search] function after the Start Button and entered \"cmd\". It found it immediately and displayed an icon in the search results.

I started a command-line session and entered the command-string exactly (?) as you specified. These are the results I got, word for word:


validation of reserved space too short.
VirtualAlloc: 0x1e7.
ensure_space: failed to validate 1044480 bytes at 0x02200000
(hint: Try \"ulimit -a\"; maybe you should increase memory limits.)


Then I realized that I had actually entered \"-core\" instead of \"--core\" as you specified. So I re-ran it and I got this:


SBCL is free software. (blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada)
VirtualAlloc: 0x57
fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 6324:
os_map: VirtualAlloc failure
Welcome to LDB, a low-level debugger for the Lisp runtime environment.
ldb>


I entered the command that was hinted in the first error message: \"ulimit -a\"
and it said \"unknown command\", so that is as far as I got.

Hope all of this helps. For the time being I\'m going to stop running the app. I will monitor this forum to see how this shakes out. When you get a solution I will try again.

Good Luck.

n2n



Evidently Win64 is possible
http://www.mindmodeling.org/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=888
I don\'t yet know why it works on one and not another, but at least now there is hope.

--Jack


@Jack
Please PM the user of 888 and ask if they have the 64-bit or 32-bit 5.10.20 BOINC installed.
11) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Snowbird WUs (Message 296)
Posted 3 Feb 2008 by j2satx
That\'s how 5.64 (?) behaved for me. You have the current app, right?

I know you probably do, but I thought I\'d ask anyway.


Hi Kathryn....funny thing is the last successful completion on that puter was a 2.64. The 2.66s are the ones (so far) not accumulating CPU time.

I also use Ubuntu 7.10 and BOINC 5.10.28 on all my other Linux puters and they are not having an issue with 2.66...........puzzling.

I\'m downloading another to test this am.........bandwidth on the MM server is horrible today........download is taking forever.



Finally got some downloaded....same result, no CPU usage (as reported by Ubuntu System Monitor). I\'ll just wait for the next version and see if they run.
12) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Snowbird WUs (Message 295)
Posted 3 Feb 2008 by j2satx
That\'s how 5.64 (?) behaved for me. You have the current app, right?

I know you probably do, but I thought I\'d ask anyway.


Hi Kathryn....funny thing is the last successful completion on that puter was a 2.64. The 2.66s are the ones (so far) not accumulating CPU time.

I also use Ubuntu 7.10 and BOINC 5.10.28 on all my other Linux puters and they are not having an issue with 2.66...........puzzling.

I\'m downloading another to test this am.........bandwidth on the MM server is horrible today........download is taking forever.
13) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Snowbird WUs (Message 287)
Posted 2 Feb 2008 by j2satx
I\'ll call these Snowbird WUs.........they use resources, but they don\'t produce anything. I abort them when they don\'t start accumulating CPU Time.

537387
537259
537100
537064
536610

They were attempted on a single-core AMD running Ubuntu 32-bit.

A virtually identical computer runs them with W2K with seemingly no problem.
14) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Linux 64 (Message 285)
Posted 2 Feb 2008 by j2satx
WUs always error on both AMD and Intel 64-bit Ubuntu.

Task ID 540293
Name PRP_Test4-2-0.18_1.35_1.29_0.002_1201810884_0
Workunit 98755
Created 31 Jan 2008 20:21:28 UTC
Sent 2 Feb 2008 15:17:42 UTC
Received 2 Feb 2008 17:54:31 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 22 (0x16)
Computer ID 955
Report deadline 3 Feb 2008 19:04:22 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out

<core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 22 (0x16, -234)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
execv: No such file or directory

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 0
Granted credit 0
application version 2.66
15) Questions and Answers : Web site : RESOLVED - Database error (nothing critical!) (Message 284)
Posted 2 Feb 2008 by j2satx
How did this happen?

I\'m number 15 and number 21 on the top participants.

Database glitch or do I have two accounts?





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