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Message 359 - Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 2:58:54 UTC - in response to Message 352.

I just started with MindModeling@Beta .... And I\'m going to need some very explicit instructions.


We are having no luck with 64-bit Vista.
As soon as someone finds a way to run Steel Bank Common Lisp on a 64-bit windows computer all will be well.

The current test case that someone with a Win64 computer would be this:

Step 1.
Download this file
sbcl.1.013.zip

Step 2.
unzip the file [move the 2 contained files to c:\\ for simplicity]

Step 3.
Press the windows key + r together //this will pop-up a run dialog box
type \'cmd.exe\'
Press enter

Step 4.
You should now have a Command Window [DOS shell]
change directory to where your unzipped the files sbcl.exe and sbcl.core
type \'cd c:\\\'
Press enter

Step 5.
Try running Steel Bank Common Lisp
type
\'sbcl --core sbcl.core\'
press enter

5. Success or Failure
if you get a message talking about
\"Your kitten of death awaits\" -- or something like that
then we have a version of lisp that can be used by the project and I will then release a new Windows version with 64-bit windows support
otherwise
We are still in need of a free lisp implementation of Winx64

Let me know how it turns out,

--Jack



Thanks Jack.

I followed your procedure with some minor problems.

In Step 1 the system wouldn\'t allow download into c:\\ as it said I didn\'t have permission. Well, I am the owner of the system, the installer of the OS and the only administrator, yet Vista X64 doesn\'t recognize me as such. Vista Ultimate X64 security is still somewhat whacked and a lot of users are haveing problems similar to this. So I downloaded it elsewhere.

In Step 3, I don\'t have a \"windows\" key to press so I used the [start search] function after the Start Button and entered \"cmd\". It found it immediately and displayed an icon in the search results.

I started a command-line session and entered the command-string exactly (?) as you specified. These are the results I got, word for word:


validation of reserved space too short.
VirtualAlloc: 0x1e7.
ensure_space: failed to validate 1044480 bytes at 0x02200000
(hint: Try \"ulimit -a\"; maybe you should increase memory limits.)


Then I realized that I had actually entered \"-core\" instead of \"--core\" as you specified. So I re-ran it and I got this:


SBCL is free software. (blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada)
VirtualAlloc: 0x57
fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 6324:
os_map: VirtualAlloc failure
Welcome to LDB, a low-level debugger for the Lisp runtime environment.
ldb>


I entered the command that was hinted in the first error message: \"ulimit -a\"
and it said \"unknown command\", so that is as far as I got.

Hope all of this helps. For the time being I\'m going to stop running the app. I will monitor this forum to see how this shakes out. When you get a solution I will try again.

Good Luck.

n2n



Evidently Win64 is possible
http://www.mindmodeling.org/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=888
I don\'t yet know why it works on one and not another, but at least now there is hope.

--Jack

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Message 360 - Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 3:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 359.

I just started with MindModeling@Beta .... And I\'m going to need some very explicit instructions.


We are having no luck with 64-bit Vista.
As soon as someone finds a way to run Steel Bank Common Lisp on a 64-bit windows computer all will be well.

The current test case that someone with a Win64 computer would be this:

Step 1.
Download this file
sbcl.1.013.zip

Step 2.
unzip the file [move the 2 contained files to c:\\ for simplicity]

Step 3.
Press the windows key + r together //this will pop-up a run dialog box
type \'cmd.exe\'
Press enter

Step 4.
You should now have a Command Window [DOS shell]
change directory to where your unzipped the files sbcl.exe and sbcl.core
type \'cd c:\\\'
Press enter

Step 5.
Try running Steel Bank Common Lisp
type
\'sbcl --core sbcl.core\'
press enter

5. Success or Failure
if you get a message talking about
\"Your kitten of death awaits\" -- or something like that
then we have a version of lisp that can be used by the project and I will then release a new Windows version with 64-bit windows support
otherwise
We are still in need of a free lisp implementation of Winx64

Let me know how it turns out,

--Jack



Thanks Jack.

I followed your procedure with some minor problems.

In Step 1 the system wouldn\'t allow download into c:\\ as it said I didn\'t have permission. Well, I am the owner of the system, the installer of the OS and the only administrator, yet Vista X64 doesn\'t recognize me as such. Vista Ultimate X64 security is still somewhat whacked and a lot of users are haveing problems similar to this. So I downloaded it elsewhere.

In Step 3, I don\'t have a \"windows\" key to press so I used the [start search] function after the Start Button and entered \"cmd\". It found it immediately and displayed an icon in the search results.

I started a command-line session and entered the command-string exactly (?) as you specified. These are the results I got, word for word:


validation of reserved space too short.
VirtualAlloc: 0x1e7.
ensure_space: failed to validate 1044480 bytes at 0x02200000
(hint: Try \"ulimit -a\"; maybe you should increase memory limits.)


Then I realized that I had actually entered \"-core\" instead of \"--core\" as you specified. So I re-ran it and I got this:


SBCL is free software. (blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada)
VirtualAlloc: 0x57
fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 6324:
os_map: VirtualAlloc failure
Welcome to LDB, a low-level debugger for the Lisp runtime environment.
ldb>


I entered the command that was hinted in the first error message: \"ulimit -a\"
and it said \"unknown command\", so that is as far as I got.

Hope all of this helps. For the time being I\'m going to stop running the app. I will monitor this forum to see how this shakes out. When you get a solution I will try again.

Good Luck.

n2n



Evidently Win64 is possible
http://www.mindmodeling.org/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=888
I don\'t yet know why it works on one and not another, but at least now there is hope.

--Jack


What about us poor 32-bit Vista users?

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Message 362 - Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 6:38:02 UTC

And us poor 32 bit XP users too. I have 3 XP 32 bit machines that crash every work unit. All have 512K ram and work fine at other projects.

It seems to be a problem with sbcl. I\'ve played with sbcl 1.0.09 and 1.0.13, running it in a DOS box with sbcl --core sbcl.core and found that it runs about 50% of the time (I get the \"death kitty\" message) and gives the \"unable to find enough memory message\" or something like that the other 50%. I\'ve killed all other unnecessary processes including anti-virus and set the page file to minimum 2 Gig and max 4 Gig. I\'ve played with the settings on Control Panel->System->Advanced->Performance Settings->Advanced and tried all combinations of options under Processor Scheduling and Memory Usage but still sbcl crashes 50% of the time and work units crash 100%.

Tonight I detached this machine, made sure .../projects/mindmodeling.org_beta got deleted to ensure no leftovers, then reattached and crunched 3 work units, task IDs are 608816, 608784 and 608747, I won\'t take any new work on that machine so they should be near the top of this page. The logged stderr out for all 3 is:

<core_client_version>5.10.40</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
app error running lisp: 0x1

</stderr_txt>
]]>

My stdoutdae.txt shows the following for those 3:

12-Feb-2008 22:32:09 [---] Fetching configuration file from http://MindModeling.org/beta/get_project_config.php
12-Feb-2008 22:32:37 [MindModeling@Beta] Master file download succeeded
12-Feb-2008 22:32:43 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:32:48 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:32:50 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of ACTR_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:50 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of watchdog.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:53 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of watchdog.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:53 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of ACTR_graphics_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:55 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of ACTR_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:55 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of Helvetica.txf
12-Feb-2008 22:32:57 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of Helvetica.txf
12-Feb-2008 22:32:57 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of sbcl1.0.9.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:21 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of ACTR_graphics_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:21 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.tar.bz2
12-Feb-2008 22:33:28 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of sbcl1.0.9.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:28 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:30 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.tar.bz2
12-Feb-2008 22:33:30 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-jobinfo.xml
12-Feb-2008 22:33:31 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-jobinfo.xml
12-Feb-2008 22:33:31 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of afrl-prp-gln-01n-use-fixed_g-ut-preds-boinc.lisp
12-Feb-2008 22:33:32 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of afrl-prp-gln-01n-use-fixed_g-ut-preds-boinc.lisp
12-Feb-2008 22:33:32 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557
12-Feb-2008 22:33:33 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557
12-Feb-2008 22:33:33 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:34 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:34 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of activation.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:35 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of activation.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:35 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of sideview.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:36 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of sideview.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:40 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.exe

12-Feb-2008 22:33:41 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0
12-Feb-2008 22:33:41 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0 using ACTR version 261
12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [MindModeling@Beta] [error] Can\'t rename output file PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0_0
12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [MindModeling@Beta] Computation for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0 finished
12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [MindModeling@Beta] Output file PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0_0 for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0 absent

12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [ABC@home] Resuming task abc_wu_3996258909000_2805000_1 using abc-finder version 103
12-Feb-2008 22:35:08 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 706 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:35:13 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks

12-Feb-2008 22:35:21 [MindModeling@Beta] [error] Couldn\'t delete file projects/MindModeling.org_beta/PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557

12-Feb-2008 22:35:21 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567
12-Feb-2008 22:35:22 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567
12-Feb-2008 22:35:23 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1
12-Feb-2008 22:35:23 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1 using ACTR version 261
12-Feb-2008 22:35:37 [MindModeling@Beta] Computation for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1 finished

12-Feb-2008 22:35:37 [ABC@home] Resuming task abc_wu_3996258909000_2805000_1 using abc-finder version 103
12-Feb-2008 22:35:38 [MindModeling@Beta] Started upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:35:40 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:36:38 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 706 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:36:43 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:36:45 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562
12-Feb-2008 22:36:47 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562

12-Feb-2008 22:36:48 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1
12-Feb-2008 22:36:48 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1 using ACTR version 261
12-Feb-2008 22:37:01 [MindModeling@Beta] Computation for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1 finished

12-Feb-2008 22:37:01 [ABC@home] Resuming task abc_wu_3996258909000_2805000_1 using abc-finder version 103
12-Feb-2008 22:37:02 [MindModeling@Beta] Started upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:37:04 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:38:04 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:38:10 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

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Message 363 - Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 6:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 362.
Last modified: 11 Mar 2008, 2:56:44 UTC

And us poor 32 bit XP users too. I have 3 XP 32 bit machines that crash every work unit. All have 512K ram and work fine at other projects.

It seems to be a problem with sbcl. I\'ve played with sbcl 1.0.09 and 1.0.13, running it in a DOS box with sbcl --core sbcl.core and found that it runs about 50% of the time (I get the \"death kitty\" message) and gives the \"unable to find enough memory message\" or something like that the other 50%. I\'ve killed all other unnecessary processes including anti-virus and set the page file to minimum 2 Gig and max 4 Gig. I\'ve played with the settings on Control Panel->System->Advanced->Performance Settings->Advanced and tried all combinations of options under Processor Scheduling and Memory Usage but still sbcl crashes 50% of the time and work units crash 100%.

Tonight I detached this machine, made sure .../projects/mindmodeling.org_beta got deleted to ensure no leftovers, then reattached and crunched 3 work units, task IDs are 608816, 608784 and 608747, I won\'t take any new work on that machine so they should be near the top of this page. The logged stderr out for all 3 is:

<core_client_version>5.10.40</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
app error running lisp: 0x1

</stderr_txt>
]]>

My stdoutdae.txt shows the following for those 3:

12-Feb-2008 22:32:09 [---] Fetching configuration file from http://MindModeling.org/beta/get_project_config.php
12-Feb-2008 22:32:37 [MindModeling@Beta] Master file download succeeded
12-Feb-2008 22:32:43 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:32:48 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:32:50 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of ACTR_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:50 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of watchdog.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:53 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of watchdog.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:53 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of ACTR_graphics_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:55 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of ACTR_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:32:55 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of Helvetica.txf
12-Feb-2008 22:32:57 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of Helvetica.txf
12-Feb-2008 22:32:57 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of sbcl1.0.9.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:21 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of ACTR_graphics_2.61_windows_intelx86.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:21 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.tar.bz2
12-Feb-2008 22:33:28 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of sbcl1.0.9.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:28 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.exe
12-Feb-2008 22:33:30 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.tar.bz2
12-Feb-2008 22:33:30 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-jobinfo.xml
12-Feb-2008 22:33:31 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-jobinfo.xml
12-Feb-2008 22:33:31 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of afrl-prp-gln-01n-use-fixed_g-ut-preds-boinc.lisp
12-Feb-2008 22:33:32 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of afrl-prp-gln-01n-use-fixed_g-ut-preds-boinc.lisp
12-Feb-2008 22:33:32 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557
12-Feb-2008 22:33:33 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557
12-Feb-2008 22:33:33 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:34 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:34 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of activation.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:35 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of activation.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:35 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of sideview.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:36 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of sideview.png
12-Feb-2008 22:33:40 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.9.exe

12-Feb-2008 22:33:41 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0
12-Feb-2008 22:33:41 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0 using ACTR version 261
12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [MindModeling@Beta] [error] Can\'t rename output file PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0_0
12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [MindModeling@Beta] Computation for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0 finished
12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [MindModeling@Beta] Output file PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0_0 for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557_0 absent

12-Feb-2008 22:34:13 [ABC@home] Resuming task abc_wu_3996258909000_2805000_1 using abc-finder version 103
12-Feb-2008 22:35:08 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 706 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:35:13 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks

12-Feb-2008 22:35:21 [MindModeling@Beta] [error] Couldn\'t delete file projects/MindModeling.org_beta/PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.75_3.32_0.017_1202237557

12-Feb-2008 22:35:21 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567
12-Feb-2008 22:35:22 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567
12-Feb-2008 22:35:23 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1
12-Feb-2008 22:35:23 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1 using ACTR version 261
12-Feb-2008 22:35:37 [MindModeling@Beta] Computation for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1 finished

12-Feb-2008 22:35:37 [ABC@home] Resuming task abc_wu_3996258909000_2805000_1 using abc-finder version 103
12-Feb-2008 22:35:38 [MindModeling@Beta] Started upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:35:40 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_2.56_0.003_1202237567_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:36:38 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 706 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:36:43 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:36:45 [MindModeling@Beta] Started download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562
12-Feb-2008 22:36:47 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished download of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562

12-Feb-2008 22:36:48 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1
12-Feb-2008 22:36:48 [MindModeling@Beta] Starting task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1 using ACTR version 261
12-Feb-2008 22:37:01 [MindModeling@Beta] Computation for task PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1 finished

12-Feb-2008 22:37:01 [ABC@home] Resuming task abc_wu_3996258909000_2805000_1 using abc-finder version 103
12-Feb-2008 22:37:02 [MindModeling@Beta] Started upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:37:04 [MindModeling@Beta] Finished upload of PRP_Test4-2-0.26_1.81_1.91_0.022_1202237562_1_0
12-Feb-2008 22:38:04 [MindModeling@Beta] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
12-Feb-2008 22:38:10 [MindModeling@Beta] Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks



Judging by this sbcl post it looks like the \'poor user\' category belongs to anyone that can not allocate the necessary heap size
For windows boxes this size is 512 MB of continuous memory addresses [which is a lot]
It appears as the there is a patched version of sbcl that does dynamic memory requests that looks promising.

Inputing the below command in a running version of sbcl will output the default heap size
(/ (/(- SB-VM:DYNAMIC-SPACE-END SB-VM:DYNAMIC-SPACE-START) 1024 1024)

Thanks for all your testing,
Hopefully a solid workaround is identified soon.
If someone with this problem would like to test other intermediate sbcl version for win 32 and 64, they can be found here
Jack

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Message 364 - Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 20:48:20 UTC - in response to Message 363.

OK, scratch machines with 512K or less RAM.

One of my other machines has been crunching MM units sucessfully on 64 bit Linux. It has 1 GB RAM though the video steals a bit and leaves it with 895 MB. I booted that one on 32 bit XP and tested with various versions of sbcl from the link you give above as well as 1.0.9. I conclude that 895 available RAM is not enough, the reasons are...

The best results were obtained with sbcl 1.0.9. About 50% of the work units ran for about 20 minutes, showed regular %complete increments and ended with success. A few of those have already verified against results from wingmen. The other 50% crashed within 1 minute.

I had to kill explorer.exe (to save RAM) and run boinc.exe in a DOS box to get 50% successes otherwise the work crashed.

Also tried sbcl 1.0.14.7, 1.0.14.22 and 1.0.14.14 hoping one of those implement dynamic memory allocation but it seems they don\'t. All work units finished within 1 minute (wall clock time) and claimed < 1 second CPU time but reported success. I think the success status is erroneous but may be wrong. Here is one such result. Note that work unit was crunched twice on my machine (host 1208) and now has status Done and a canonical result declared. I bet neither of those results would verify against a result from a machine with adequate RAM. Hope you\'re somehow screening canonical results because that one is likely BS.

Perhaps I installed the newer versions of sbcl incorrectly? They are distributed as a .msi file. I simply uninstalled previous version via Add/Remove Software, let the installer do its thing then copied the sbcl.exe and sbcl.core into ...boinc/projects/mindmodeling.org_beta/sbcl1.0.9.

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Message 365 - Posted: 13 Feb 2008, 23:34:23 UTC - in response to Message 359.

I just started with MindModeling@Beta .... And I\'m going to need some very explicit instructions.


We are having no luck with 64-bit Vista.
As soon as someone finds a way to run Steel Bank Common Lisp on a 64-bit windows computer all will be well.

The current test case that someone with a Win64 computer would be this:

Step 1.
Download this file
sbcl.1.013.zip

Step 2.
unzip the file [move the 2 contained files to c:\\ for simplicity]

Step 3.
Press the windows key + r together //this will pop-up a run dialog box
type \'cmd.exe\'
Press enter

Step 4.
You should now have a Command Window [DOS shell]
change directory to where your unzipped the files sbcl.exe and sbcl.core
type \'cd c:\\\'
Press enter

Step 5.
Try running Steel Bank Common Lisp
type
\'sbcl --core sbcl.core\'
press enter

5. Success or Failure
if you get a message talking about
\"Your kitten of death awaits\" -- or something like that
then we have a version of lisp that can be used by the project and I will then release a new Windows version with 64-bit windows support
otherwise
We are still in need of a free lisp implementation of Winx64

Let me know how it turns out,

--Jack



Thanks Jack.

I followed your procedure with some minor problems.

In Step 1 the system wouldn\'t allow download into c:\\ as it said I didn\'t have permission. Well, I am the owner of the system, the installer of the OS and the only administrator, yet Vista X64 doesn\'t recognize me as such. Vista Ultimate X64 security is still somewhat whacked and a lot of users are haveing problems similar to this. So I downloaded it elsewhere.

In Step 3, I don\'t have a \"windows\" key to press so I used the [start search] function after the Start Button and entered \"cmd\". It found it immediately and displayed an icon in the search results.

I started a command-line session and entered the command-string exactly (?) as you specified. These are the results I got, word for word:


validation of reserved space too short.
VirtualAlloc: 0x1e7.
ensure_space: failed to validate 1044480 bytes at 0x02200000
(hint: Try \"ulimit -a\"; maybe you should increase memory limits.)


Then I realized that I had actually entered \"-core\" instead of \"--core\" as you specified. So I re-ran it and I got this:


SBCL is free software. (blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada)
VirtualAlloc: 0x57
fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 6324:
os_map: VirtualAlloc failure
Welcome to LDB, a low-level debugger for the Lisp runtime environment.
ldb>


I entered the command that was hinted in the first error message: \"ulimit -a\"
and it said \"unknown command\", so that is as far as I got.

Hope all of this helps. For the time being I\'m going to stop running the app. I will monitor this forum to see how this shakes out. When you get a solution I will try again.

Good Luck.

n2n



Evidently Win64 is possible
http://www.mindmodeling.org/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=888
I don\'t yet know why it works on one and not another, but at least now there is hope.

--Jack


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Please PM the user of 888 and ask if they have the 64-bit or 32-bit 5.10.20 BOINC installed.

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Message 375 - Posted: 16 Feb 2008, 10:43:18 UTC - in response to Message 363.
Last modified: 16 Feb 2008, 10:47:11 UTC

Thanks for all your testing,
Hopefully a solid workaround is identified soon.
If someone with this problem would like to test other intermediate sbcl version for win 32 and 64, they can be found here
Jack


I downloaded latest sbcl from the link above.
I also noted sbcl-win64.patch file. Has anybody checked compilation with this patch file?

Anyway, latest build doesn\'t give error as many posted and seems to work fine in command-line version.
BOINC 5.10.38 x64 on Win 2K3 x64, 8GB RAM.

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c:\\Boinc Honza\\projects\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.9>sbcl --core sbcl.core --dynamic-space-size 128
This is SBCL 1.0.14.7, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp.
More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>.

SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty.
It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under
BSD-style licenses. See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the
distribution for more information.

This is experimental prerelease support for the Windows platform: use
at your own risk.
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Message 454 - Posted: 8 Mar 2008, 18:30:16 UTC - in response to Message 375.

Thanks for all your testing,
Hopefully a solid workaround is identified soon.
If someone with this problem would like to test other intermediate sbcl version for win 32 and 64, they can be found here
Jack


I downloaded latest sbcl from the link above.
I also noted sbcl-win64.patch file. Has anybody checked compilation with this patch file?

Anyway, latest build doesn\'t give error as many posted and seems to work fine in command-line version.
BOINC 5.10.38 x64 on Win 2K3 x64, 8GB RAM.

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c:\\Boinc Honza\\projects\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.9>sbcl --core sbcl.core --dynamic-space-size 128
This is SBCL 1.0.14.7, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp.
More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>.

SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty.
It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under
BSD-style licenses. See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the
distribution for more information.

This is experimental prerelease support for the Windows platform: use
at your own risk.
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Can someone confirm this that has had the problem of sbcl not running.
--Jack

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Message 485 - Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 23:11:41 UTC

So far I haven\'t been able to get the Projects WU\'s to run on my 64 Bit PC\'s when using either a 32 or 64 Bit BOUNC Client. The BOINC Client starts and the WU\'s say their running but there\'s no activity at all for the CPU in the Task Manager & theirs no advancement of Time in the BOINC Manager ... ???

<core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
ACTR: boinc_init_options complete
ACTR: boinc_get_init_data(actr_aid) complete
ACTR: Trace 1
ACTR: Trace 2
ACTR: Trace 3
ACTR: Trace 4
ACTR: Trace 5
ACTR: Trace 6
checkdir: cannot create extraction directory: sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows
ACTR: Trace 7
error: cannot delete old actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.13/core-modules/motor.lisp
error: cannot delete old actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.13/core-modules/vision.lisp
error: cannot delete old actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.13/environment/Start Environment.exe
ACTR: Trace 8
ACTR: Trace 9
ACTR: Trace 10 -- Lisp Running
ACTR: Trace 11 -- Watchdog Running (if Win32)
app error running lisp: 0x1
called boinc_finish


**********
**********

Memory Leaks Detected!!!

Memory Statistics:
0 bytes in 0 Free Blocks.
747 bytes in 6 Normal Blocks.
6499 bytes in 11 CRT Blocks.
0 bytes in 0 Ignore Blocks.
0 bytes in 0 Client Blocks.
Largest number used: 220326 bytes.
Total allocations: 1035765 bytes.

Dumping objects ->
{80} normal block at 0x01EC4AA0, 48 bytes long.
Data: <preparing-actr6v> 70 72 65 70 61 72 69 6E 67 2D 61 63 74 72 36 76
{64} normal block at 0x01EC5A60, 513 bytes long.
Data: <afrl-prp-gln-01n> 61 66 72 6C 2D 70 72 70 2D 67 6C 6E 2D 30 31 6E
{61} normal block at 0x01EC49A8, 89 bytes long.
Data: < <color_scheme>D> 0A 3C 63 6F 6C 6F 72 5F 73 63 68 65 6D 65 3E 44
c:\\users\\jack\\desktop\\mm\\boinc\\api\\boinc_api.c(178) : {59} normal block at 0x01EC2C58, 4 bytes long.
Data: < > 00 00 02 02
c:\\users\\jack\\desktop\\mm\\boinc\\lib\\parse.c(142) : {58} normal block at 0x01EC2BD0, 89 bytes long.
Data: < <color_scheme>D> 0A 3C 63 6F 6C 6F 72 5F 73 63 68 65 6D 65 3E 44
{51} normal block at 0x01EC2B58, 4 bytes long.
Data: < Cì ¦gt; 10 43 EC 01
Object dump complete.


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Message 486 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 3:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 485.
Last modified: 14 Mar 2008, 4:04:43 UTC

So far I haven\'t been able to get the Projects WU\'s to run on my 64 Bit PC\'s when using either a 32 or 64 Bit BOUNC Client. The BOINC Client starts and the WU\'s say their running but there\'s no activity at all for the CPU in the Task Manager & theirs no advancement of Time in the BOINC Manager ... ???

<core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
ACTR: boinc_init_options complete
ACTR: boinc_get_init_data(actr_aid) complete
ACTR: Trace 1
ACTR: Trace 2
ACTR: Trace 3
ACTR: Trace 4
ACTR: Trace 5
ACTR: Trace 6
checkdir: cannot create extraction directory: sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows
ACTR: Trace 7
error: cannot delete old actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.13/core-modules/motor.lisp
error: cannot delete old actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.13/core-modules/vision.lisp
error: cannot delete old actr6v1.2r492_oldutility--sbcl1.0.13/environment/Start Environment.exe
ACTR: Trace 8
ACTR: Trace 9
ACTR: Trace 10 -- Lisp Running
ACTR: Trace 11 -- Watchdog Running (if Win32)
app error running lisp: 0x1
called boinc_finish


**********
**********

Memory Leaks Detected!!!

Memory Statistics:
0 bytes in 0 Free Blocks.
747 bytes in 6 Normal Blocks.
6499 bytes in 11 CRT Blocks.
0 bytes in 0 Ignore Blocks.
0 bytes in 0 Client Blocks.
Largest number used: 220326 bytes.
Total allocations: 1035765 bytes.

Dumping objects ->
{80} normal block at 0x01EC4AA0, 48 bytes long.
Data: <preparing-actr6v> 70 72 65 70 61 72 69 6E 67 2D 61 63 74 72 36 76
{64} normal block at 0x01EC5A60, 513 bytes long.
Data: <afrl-prp-gln-01n> 61 66 72 6C 2D 70 72 70 2D 67 6C 6E 2D 30 31 6E
{61} normal block at 0x01EC49A8, 89 bytes long.
Data: < <color_scheme>D> 0A 3C 63 6F 6C 6F 72 5F 73 63 68 65 6D 65 3E 44
c:\\users\\jack\\desktop\\mm\\boinc\\api\\boinc_api.c(178) : {59} normal block at 0x01EC2C58, 4 bytes long.
Data: < > 00 00 02 02
c:\\users\\jack\\desktop\\mm\\boinc\\lib\\parse.c(142) : {58} normal block at 0x01EC2BD0, 89 bytes long.
Data: < <color_scheme>D> 0A 3C 63 6F 6C 6F 72 5F 73 63 68 65 6D 65 3E 44
{51} normal block at 0x01EC2B58, 4 bytes long.
Data: < Cì ¦gt; 10 43 EC 01
Object dump complete.


</stderr_txt>
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Yep SBCL1.0.13 doesn\'t work on Win x64 machines it turns out.
Recent tests shows that using the latest source code (1.0.l5) and compiling it for windows also does not remedy this.

However, Honza sucessfully tested out a \"patched version\" were Memory locations are moved.
http://mindmodeling.org/beta/forum_thread.php?id=32&nowrap=true#375

I am waiting on someone to verify Honda\'s results.
http://mindmodeling.org/beta/forum_thread.php?id=32&nowrap=true#454

just install and run from the command-line

cd to installed directory
sbcl.exe --core sbcl.core

If it works I will use the patched version.
--Jack

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Message 503 - Posted: 17 Mar 2008, 4:01:06 UTC
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Hello,

I had the same problem, all wu in error. This is what I did.

Downloaded and installed this program

http://www.peerweb.nl/sbcl/sbcl-1.0.14.22-x86-windows-binary.msi

then I go to X:\\Program Files(x86)\\Boinc\\xxxxx\\1.0.14...\\

I copy all file and paste them to X:\\Programmes\\Boinc\\project\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows\\...

then I open a cmd.exe as Administrator, cd to this folder
X:\\Programmes\\Boinc\\project\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows\\
and rename sbcl.exe mm_sblc.exe and at last (but I am not sure this is necessary) I typed

mm_sbcl --core sbcl.core --dynamic-space-size 128

and now it works with Vista 64 (2Go of memory, Q6600 inside) and Boinc 5.10.30 64b.

My computer

If you don\'t unterstand all, it is normal, I am french and don\'t speak English. :-)

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Message 507 - Posted: 18 Mar 2008, 5:20:09 UTC - in response to Message 503.

Hello,

I had the same problem, all wu in error. This is what I did.

Downloaded and installed this program

http://www.peerweb.nl/sbcl/sbcl-1.0.14.22-x86-windows-binary.msi

then I go to X:\\Program Files(x86)\\Boinc\\xxxxx\\1.0.14...\\

I copy all file and paste them to X:\\Programmes\\Boinc\\project\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows\\...

then I open a cmd.exe as Administrator, cd to this folder
X:\\Programmes\\Boinc\\project\\MindModeling.org_beta\\sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows\\
and rename sbcl.exe mm_sblc.exe and at last (but I am not sure this is necessary) I typed

mm_sbcl --core sbcl.core --dynamic-space-size 128

and now it works with Vista 64 (2Go of memory, Q6600 inside) and Boinc 5.10.30 64b.

My computer

If you don\'t unterstand all, it is normal, I am french and don\'t speak English. :-)


Awesome,
A very big thank you to Honza and Rosalie Mignon the next release will have the patched version of sbcl.
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Message 540 - Posted: 24 Mar 2008, 20:20:48 UTC

thx... it also NOT Running on my Windowx XP x64

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Message 553 - Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 15:50:13 UTC
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So, Mr. Harris :)
With all that great work by the other members, any thoughts on when the next Windows version will be available that will work on Vista?

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Message 687 - Posted: 28 Apr 2008, 22:23:37 UTC

Just to let people know, I tried a patched version of sbcl for Jack with successful results on a Windows Vista Ultimate machine (32-bit, Core2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0 GHz.) Hoping this will be of use in getting out the next version soon.

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Message 729 - Posted: 11 May 2008, 2:12:43 UTC - in response to Message 687.

Just to let people know, I tried a patched version of sbcl for Jack with successful results on a Windows Vista Ultimate machine (32-bit, Core2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0 GHz.) Hoping this will be of use in getting out the next version soon.


I just attached this C2Q, Vista Home Premium x64 box, on Fri, 5-9. All wu\'s error out still. Do I need to replace the LISP file?
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Message 731 - Posted: 11 May 2008, 17:50:20 UTC

I have two computers running Vista: One 32-bit home premium the other 64-bit Ultimate. Both computers are running MM workunits with a 99% success rate. (3 validate errors out of 200+ workunits)

Both computers are running version 5.10.45 (32-bit and 64-bit respectively) with no modifications that I am aware of.

Both are running sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows.zip

If you want more info, I will try to give it to you.

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Message 734 - Posted: 11 May 2008, 21:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 731.

I have two computers running Vista: One 32-bit home premium the other 64-bit Ultimate. Both computers are running MM workunits with a 99% success rate. (3 validate errors out of 200+ workunits)

Both computers are running version 5.10.45 (32-bit and 64-bit respectively) with no modifications that I am aware of.

Both are running sbcl1.0.13-x86-windows.zip

If you want more info, I will try to give it to you.


There is now a patch that may help those experience 64-bit / Vista problems.

More Patch Info Here: here

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Message 1002 - Posted: 13 Sep 2008, 16:19:23 UTC - in response to Message 734.

A patch is no longer neccessary for the 64-bit client.
The 3.4+ version all include the patched version of the Lisp virtual machine we use (SBCL).
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