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Message 4165 - Posted: 9 Oct 2018, 13:25:08 UTC
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Hey Everyone,

There was an unplanned power outage that caused MindModeling.org to go offline for a few days.

We are working to bring everything back online as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience and we hope to have everything back up and running soon.

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Brandon

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Message 4166 - Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 19:06:39 UTC
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The stats for TeAm AnandTech are not tallied up correctly, it appears.

Team points update for 2018-10-10: +0 points, and 2018-10-09: +5,780 points. This is shown by both free-dc and boincstats. Their current total points of TeAm Anandtech, 3,980,049, are the same as those seen on the team page at mm.org right now.

Yet if I add up the team's individual user points at free-dc, I get for 2018-10-10: +52,360 points, and 2018-10-09: +173,330 points (+225,690 in total).

Adding the team's individual user points at boincstats, I get for 2018-10-10: +247,696 points, and 2018-10-09: +20,357 points (+268,053 in total).

Is this a normal glitch which will correct itself over time, or is something not working right anymore since the outage?

(I spot-checked another team, and this had less than 1 ‰ difference between team points and the sum of user points.)

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Message 4168 - Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 8:37:01 UTC
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Just adding to this.

The credits for UK Boinc Team are also 'missing' from Boincstats and FreeDC at least (I haven't checked others)

0 points reported on the 10th although individual team members contributions from Boincstats add to 96,113 and 3,089 reported on the 9th although individual members tally 11,422.

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Message 4169 - Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 13:04:46 UTC
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Thanks for letting me know about the issue.

There is an issue with the team database that needs to be worked out, due to the power outage.

As soon as we have a fix implemented I will let you know.

Credit distribution will be fixed once this is taken care of.

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Brandon

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Message 4171 - Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 9:28:53 UTC
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We appreciate you looking into this team stats problem Brandon.

I found another team (BOINCstats) that seems to have the same issue.

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Message 4173 - Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 19:10:37 UTC
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Are we taking time out to fix things? I see no jobs or tasks suddenly.

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Message 4176 - Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 20:07:13 UTC
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Are you kidding me. STOP THE WORK AND FIX THE STATS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message 4179 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 7:48:22 UTC - in response to Message 4169.
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Hi Brandon,

I know that the science is the most important factor to those of us who contribute computer time to this project, but team stats are also important to us. Every year boinc teams compete against each other and stats are tracked at the Formula Boinc site. Team Anandtech was number one in points for the MindModeling project until a few days ago because our team stats have not been exported while most other teams do not have this issue.

This is the primary reason why we are requesting that this problem be fised.

Here's a link to the forumula Boinc site:

http://formula-boinc.org/projets.py?lang=&prj=66&year=2018

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Message 4180 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 18:35:32 UTC
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Hi Everyone,

I apologize for not responding sooner. I have been out of the office the past few days due to illness.

When I return fixing this issue will be a top priority to get stats back in order for everyone.

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Brandon

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Message 4181 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 22:03:49 UTC - in response to Message 4176.
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Are you kidding me. STOP THE WORK AND FIX THE STATS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jesus cry a river.

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Message 4182 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 23:23:41 UTC - in response to Message 4181.
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To some, points are more important than the results from the project.

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Message 4183 - Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 13:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 4182.
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To some, points are more important than the results from the project.


They need more computers then!! Th problem is the people worried about stats aren't worried that the project, for the 2nd time in a week, has zero tasks to send out! I guess they only care about their past stats and not their future ones because as of right now there are NO future ones!! I would love to bring more pc's over here but with the project not having enough work I would always be running my backup projects, as would everyone else.
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Message 4185 - Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 16:42:46 UTC
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Badges and credits for users and teams are indeed strong motivators to many volunteers. This is what they were invented for, I guess.

@Brandon, thank you for keeping us informed. Get well.

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Message 4187 - Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 19:40:17 UTC
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And there are tasks available again!!!
WOO HOO!!!

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Message 4196 - Posted: 24 Oct 2018, 23:05:40 UTC - in response to Message 4166.
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The stats for TeAm AnandTech are not tallied up correctly, it appears.

Team points update for 2018-10-10: +0 points, and 2018-10-09: +5,780 points. This is shown by both free-dc and boincstats. Their current total points of TeAm Anandtech, 3,980,049, are the same as those seen on the team page at mm.org right now.

Yet if I add up the team's individual user points at free-dc, I get for 2018-10-10: +52,360 points, and 2018-10-09: +173,330 points (+225,690 in total).

Adding the team's individual user points at boincstats, I get for 2018-10-10: +247,696 points, and 2018-10-09: +20,357 points (+268,053 in total).

Is this a normal glitch which will correct itself over time, or is something not working right anymore since the outage?

(I spot-checked another team, and this had less than 1 ‰ difference between team points and the sum of user points.)


I do apologize for the threat, but if you don't get the stats for TeAm Anandtech fixed before midnight of December 31st, TeAm AnandTech will NOT be running your project for the rest of 2018!!! ;) :P

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Message 4199 - Posted: 1 Nov 2018, 21:50:04 UTC
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@Brandon,
I have been tracking our user stats and team stats using boincstats:
https://boincstats.com/en/stats/63/team/detail/141/lastDays
https://boincstats.com/en/stats/63/user/list/0/0/141/0
(Following from the second page, there are also last-40-day records of each user.)

The result is here:
https://i.imgur.com/QXW97HJ.png
https://pastebin.com/raw/YqKhjK4n
In the PNG, the blue section shows team stats straight from your database, the black section shows user stats from your database and then added up, and the red section shows the difference between black and blue.

Notes:
- Since boincstats does not display fractional credits, there are small rounding errors in this spreadsheet.
- From what I understand, the differences between user stats and team stats during the most recent few days are merely caused by timing differences between user stats dumps and team stats dump, and are averaged out across days.

Evidently, the team stats are now being updated correctly again. Thank you very much for fixing this!

But also, 5 million points are missing in our team stats from the ~2.5 weeks with the database glitch. This is a lot. And it means a lot to us. (Speaking for myself, I don't care much for my user points at MindModeling, but I do care a lot for my team points.) Are you able to correct the team credits retroactively? (I have seen other projects' admins perform similar corrections when they had mistakes in their databases.)

Thank you.

PS,
as far as I know, TeAm AnandTech has been the most productive of your contributing teams in 2018 so far. And if we continue our effort (and could get our stats corrected), we shall make it into your all-time top ten very soon.

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Message 4200 - Posted: 2 Nov 2018, 13:50:35 UTC - in response to Message 4187.
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And there are tasks available again!!!
WOO HOO!!!


And now there aren't anymore again!!
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Message 4201 - Posted: 5 Nov 2018, 14:07:57 UTC
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Hi xii5ku,

Thanks for letting us know.

We will be working on a solution to get those credits updated and saw that issue as well.

Best,

Brandon

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