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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't Attach at all (Message 1498)
Posted 1156 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
I never detached so that error message is one that is not indicating an issue on your end, but one indicating an issue on MM's end...

Like the errors where BOINC cannot attach to the database ...

Likely a server side restart would clear this up ...
2) Message boards : Number crunching : There are WUs (Message 1494)
Posted 1157 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
I got about 20 across all my systems and all are done now ... if I had not been looking at my daily totals on BOINC Stats I would never have noticed the work ... just like I think I only got one LHC task as much as I want to have their work I did not seem to get any the last few times they had some ...

Most interestingly is no news on the front page yet!
3) Questions and Answers : Web site : Cannot change signature (Message 1457)
Posted 1369 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
YOu cannot make any update to the preferences page and save it. You can do a reset...

This is usually the result when the schema updates are not properly made so that the database structure is not correct. The project team needs to go back and reapply one or more changes that UCB made to the database to get the structures right ...
4) Questions and Answers : Web site : Cannot change signature (Message 1232)
Posted 1593 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
You cannot make any change to that page... I was trying to change some other things ...
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid Access to Memory location (0x3e6) (Message 1225)
Posted 1609 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
I am getting a few tasks (Example) with this error on multiple systems (all seem to be on XP, I cannot find one on OS-X, does not mean it did not happen there too, I just don't see one):


<core_client_version>5.10.45</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Invalid access to memory location. (0x3e6) - exit code 998 (0x3e6)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
ACTR: boinc_init_options complete
ACTR: boinc_get_init_data(actr_aid) complete
ACTR: Trace 1
ACTR: Trace 2
ACTR: Trace 3
ACTR: Trace 4
ACTR: Trace 5
ACTR: Trace 6
ACTR: Trace 8
ACTR: Trace 9
ACTR: Trace 10 -- Lisp Running
ACTR: Trace 11 -- Watchdog Running (if Win32)
ACTR: Complete after 0
ACTR: Trace 12 -- Calling Finish
invalid number of arguments: 0C:\Program Files\BOINC\slots\0/actr6v1.3r617_default_nosockets--sbcl1.0.14.22-x86-windowsACTR: Deleteing actr compiled 1
ACTR: Deleteing actr compiled 2
ACTR: Deleteing actr compiled 3
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>
6) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1198)
Posted 1618 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
Just got two tasks ... now to wait and see if they run ...
7) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1197)
Posted 1618 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
The errors seem to be coming from a versioning issue.


Um, can't test the executable issue though I did a project reset, now I get:


Mon Jan 12 15:08:34 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png
Mon Jan 12 15:08:34 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of activation.png
Mon Jan 12 15:08:35 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png: file not found


and:


Mon Jan 12 15:08:35 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of activation.png: file not found
Mon Jan 12 15:08:35 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of sideview.png

Mon Jan 12 15:08:36 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of sideview.png: file not found

but as there is no work it does not try to download a specific executable... Even more interesting to me now is the fact that if I include the last line in the quote I lose the last of the post when previewing or posting ...

Not sure why ... but I find it fascinating ...

Sigh...

{edit}
I tried several other forums on other projects and none of them seem to have the problem. I noticed that my post in the mac questions area was likewise truncated with the last line ... so, I don't know what is happening, or why ... but ... now you know ...
{/edit}
8) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : NO executable (Message 1196)
Posted 1618 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
Tom said in another thread that the problem was a database versioning issue, now I get:

[quote]
Mon Jan 12 15:08:34 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png
Mon Jan 12 15:08:34 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of activation.png
Mon Jan 12 15:08:35 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of mm_ProjectIcon_BETA_01.png: file not found
Mon Jan 12 15:08:35 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of activation.png: file not found
Mon Jan 12 15:08:35 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of sideview.png
Mon Jan 12 15:08:36 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of sideview.png: file not found
9) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : NO executable (Message 1190)
Posted 1618 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
Well, I just noted that there is work available... so I tried to get some ... and I get these messages:


Mon Jan 12 09:40:07 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 18578 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
Mon Jan 12 09:40:12 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
Mon Jan 12 09:40:15 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of mm_ACTR_3.40_i686-apple-darwin
Mon Jan 12 09:40:15 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of mm_ACTR_graphics_3.40_i686-apple-darwin
Mon Jan 12 09:40:16 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of mm_ACTR_3.40_i686-apple-darwin: file not found
Mon Jan 12 09:40:16 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of mm_ACTR_graphics_3.40_i686-apple-darwin: file not found
Mon Jan 12 09:40:16 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of Helvetica.txf
Mon Jan 12 09:40:16 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Started download of sbcl1.0.15-x86-darwin.zip
Mon Jan 12 09:40:17 2009|MindModeling@Beta|Giving up on download of Helvetica.txf: file not found
10) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1189)
Posted 1618 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
Hey crunchers,

I understand your concern with the current job status, and I'll try to explain situation and why you're getting the messages you're getting.

Basically, for our research we use an algorithm that allows us to (hopefully) cut the amount of computations in half. We sample a parameter space, do some computations, and if the parameter space contains all the information we need-- we're done. If the parameter space does not contain all the information we need however, we have to order new parameter sets and do more computations. Thus, instead of sending out all parameter points at once we do them in chunks. That is why there can be 90% left of the parameter space to be examined and no work to be handed out. Sometimes we only send out about 5% of the total parameter space and we have to wait for the results to come back to do more.

For this particulat job (SASTNM_9_6), we are sending out about 200 parameter sets per WU because the computations are relatively small and can be done really, really fast. If we start doing less than 200 parameter sets per WU there becomes a lot of overhead between uploading and downloading. Thus, it becomes a tradeoff: overhead vs. fairness. With a high number of parameter sets per WU less volunteers get numbers to crunch (until a larger space is examined).

To remedy this I will reduce the number of paramter sets per WU to 50 and see how well they are allocated amongst the volunteers and what type of overhead we suffer from it. If the problem still persists or if my explanation wasn't clear, please post to this forum or send me a message and I will respond accordingly.


Tom,

THanks for the explanation ...

But, from the way I am understanding it ... well ... you don't have much need for us at all.

Perhaps I am mistaken ... but if the computations can be done really fast ... then why use BOINC?

In the past, we had a relatively continual flow of work and this sudden drought just has us scratching our heads. It is not unheard of, just odd happening so suddenly.

I guess that the news on the front page kinda got us thinking that there was a good amount of work to be done ... Just a thought ... so we don't get into a dither, consider doing what SIMAP does ... the clearly state the size of the batch so that those of us that are rabid about supporting a particular project can tell if the flow of work is expectedly small or whatever ...

EX:

The new batch of work named "New batch of work" will have an initial run of 250 tasks and if the parameter space is not filled we will follow with a larger batch of 26,231,596 tasks in a couple of days.

With that type of announcement, we can judge if there is a reason for the queues to be empty, or whatever ... what had us in a lather is that there was an announcement of work ... then apparently, no work ... I know *I* was excited because I just ramped up my shares for Malaria Control and MM-Beta
in anticipation of throwing you more support just in time for both projects to seemingly crater on me ...

Not that it matters in the global scheme of things, but like Rosetta (who can't seem to create an application that runs correctly) you guys just fell back down the priority list as I turn attention to other projects ...

{edit}
Well, there is work, can't get it because of errors though ...
{/edit}
11) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1186)
Posted 1618 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
Well now I am getting Downloads BUT all the WU log in as Failed download

Lots of Bugs to work on this Week


At least you get assigned tasks ...

I get 0 tasks all systems ...

Though when I looked last night the current sub-project was only 10-13% complete there was no work pending ...

I think Viking69 had a good question ...
12) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1183)
Posted 1619 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
Um, I don't know if any project types pass through ...

But, some of us can't get work ...

I don't know why ... but I tried project reset and now a detach and attach ... I know someone is getting work ... but some of us are not so lucky ... really, I would like to help ... but cannot if you won't issue work to my computers ....
13) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1182)
Posted 1619 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
I get the same thing in a XP OS so your not alone
Something is miss directed on the New server


Well, I should have gotten something on at least one of my machines, but nada ...

Thanks for the note ... nice to know I am not alone ... though I can see by the percentage done of the task (which hasn't changed) that work is not being issued.

You would think that SOMEONE would be watching to see that work was coming out ...
14) Message boards : Number crunching : No work? (Message 1179)
Posted 1620 days ago by Profile Paul D. Buck
The site says it has work ...

SO, why can't my Mac Pro get any? I ask for 16K seconds and get 0 tasks ... you issuing work only to Windows machines?

I did a project reset where upon I was told that activation.png and sideview.png don't exist ... trying on my XP machine, same missing files ...

sadly it want s no work at the moment ... so I can't tell you if it is an OS thing or a global thing ...




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